---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Brian Miller <brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> Date: Wed, Nov 5, 2025 at 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [Helobubbas] UPS Plane That Crashed Was 34 Years Old-and Repaired in September To: <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> Once again, no idea if this is relevant, but here is a good video of Flight 191 at Ohare in 1979. This was a DC-10 (now MD-11) and it remains the worst air disaster in history. So far, a lot of similarities. I don’t know if the engine is still designed to to fail up and over the wing structurally, but if that is the case, it is not hard to imagine a scenario like this. Quite possibly an engine structural failure that led to perhaps a fod issue on one or both remaining engines, perhaps with accompanying hydraulic issues. The OHAre accident was found to be maintenance malpractice. They used an unauthorized procedure (forklift) in the engine removal process. https://youtu.be/F6iU7Mmf330?si=a6vO2ut4-rmHyNaE Given the fact that the engine was thrown clear, it at least seems a place to start. On Wed, Nov 5, 2025 at 4:06 PM <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> wrote:

https://www.wsj.com/business/airlines/ups-plane-that-crashed-was-34-years-ol...

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