The engine in question is laying on the ground and fell off during the mishap and someone has mentioned that the other engine was compressor stalling meaning they may have been down to just the engine in the tail may have been the only consistent propulsion they were getting.  This is all heresay through channels to other pilots I know and some who had connections at UPS.  I actually am having a hard time watching it knowing that 3 pilots deaths are depicted and it is such a horrifying video.  I was in the air flying from KCLE to KLAS at the time this happened.  If I hear anything further of value I will share it along.  Of course the NTSB is armpit deep in this now and will have us an answer at some point.  

On 11/4/2025 7:53 PM, Brian Miller wrote:
Possibly avionics.  Once again, know nothing of the type, but that seems like A LOT of flame for an avionics fire.  The engine detaching sort of reminds me of American Airlines 191 out of O’Hare.  I think it was actually the same type of plane.  That’s was maintenance malpractice.  Inside the cockpit, however, some things went wrong, no real fault of the pilots given the circumstances, that could quite possibly be an issue here.

On Tue, Nov 4, 2025 at 10:40 PM <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1412173320909095

More video…..Awful mishap

 

CDR Mike Brattland, USN (Ret.) mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com

mgbrattland@brattland.org

Admin/Moderator SanDiegoCarGuys List & Calendar of Events

sandiegocarguys@brattland.org

619 454-0496  ’38 Willys 2 Dr Sedan

Webmaster for www.brattland.org www.overthehillgang.com   www.overdrivehotrodnews.com  www.gerlecreek.org  www.helobubbas.com   

www.prowlers.org  www.gerlecreek.com  www.ford6vcarburetion.com   

www.westcoastwillysclub.com www.nssha.org www.nhahistoricalsociety.org  https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/

 

 

From: Brian Miller <brianjmiller1977@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2025 4:20 PM
To: mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com
Cc: HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com>
Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: UPS Mishap

 

That was a lot of flame and it looks like they were already beyond V1.  Knowing nothing about the type, it looks like they had some issues getting to Vr and still tried to rotate, likely due to a complete lack of any other option.  The fire was obviously an issue, but I’m wondering what sucked away their takeoff power.  It’s a tough thing to see.

 

On Tue, Nov 4, 2025 at 6:30 PM <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> wrote:

_______________________________________________
Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com
To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com


_______________________________________________
Helobubbas mailing list -- helobubbas@helobubbas.com
To unsubscribe send an email to helobubbas-leave@helobubbas.com