From: mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2025 8:51 AM To: 'Marc Liebman' <marc@marcliebman.com> Subject: RE: [Helobubbas] Re: UPS Mishap Marc according to a post on the Helobubbas FB page by Kevin Black from this list, in the airline circles it is being shared the aircraft was delayed two hours so UPS Maint could work on the number 1 engine. Kevin Black on our list and Brian Miller on our list are both Frontier Airbus pilots and connected in that community….mgb From: Marc Liebman <marc@marcliebman.com <mailto:marc@marcliebman.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 5, 2025 7:54 AM To: mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> Subject: Re: [Helobubbas] Re: UPS Mishap This is really ugly. Any ideas on what caused it? Marc Liebman <https://www.marcliebman.com> https://www.marcliebman.com <https://www.facebook.com/marcliebmanauthor/> https://www.facebook.com/marcliebmanauthor/ <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_sDoFQM5wupNaCeGIvKL1g> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_sDoFQM5wupNaCeGIvKL1g From: Mike Brattland <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> > Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2025 at 9:45 PM To: 'Brian Miller' <brianjmiller1977@gmail.com <mailto:brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> > Cc: 'HeloBubbas' <helobubbas@helobubbas.com <mailto:helobubbas@helobubbas.com> > Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: UPS Mishap https://www.facebook.com/therealspeedbirdhd/posts/pfbid02XcsNpcmGZmJXrdRcrFY... The Number 1 Engine laying next to the runway CDR Mike Brattland, USN (Ret.) <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@brattland.org> mgbrattland@brattland.org Admin/Moderator SanDiegoCarGuys List & Calendar of Events <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> sandiegocarguys@brattland.org 619 454-0496 ’38 Willys 2 Dr Sedan Webmaster for <http://www.brattland.org/> www.brattland.org <http://www.overthehillgang.com/> www.overthehillgang.com <http://www.overdrivehotrodnews.com/> www.overdrivehotrodnews.com <http://www.gerlecreek.org/> www.gerlecreek.org <http://www.helobubbas.com/> www.helobubbas.com <http://www.prowlers.org/> www.prowlers.org <http://www.gerlecreek.com/> www.gerlecreek.com <http://www.ford6vcarburetion.com/> www.ford6vcarburetion.com <http://www.westcoastwillysclub.com/> www.westcoastwillysclub.com <http://www.nssha.org/> www.nssha.org <http://www.nhahistoricalsociety.org/> www.nhahistoricalsociety.org <https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/> https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/ From: mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> <mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2025 7:40 PM To: 'Brian Miller' <brianjmiller1977@gmail.com <mailto:brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> > Cc: 'HeloBubbas' <helobubbas@helobubbas.com <mailto:helobubbas@helobubbas.com> > Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: UPS Mishap https://www.facebook.com/reel/1412173320909095 More video…..Awful mishap CDR Mike Brattland, USN (Ret.) <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@brattland.org> mgbrattland@brattland.org Admin/Moderator SanDiegoCarGuys List & Calendar of Events <mailto:sandiegocarguys@brattland.org> sandiegocarguys@brattland.org 619 454-0496 ’38 Willys 2 Dr Sedan Webmaster for <http://www.brattland.org/> www.brattland.org <http://www.overthehillgang.com/> www.overthehillgang.com <http://www.overdrivehotrodnews.com/> www.overdrivehotrodnews.com <http://www.gerlecreek.org/> www.gerlecreek.org <http://www.helobubbas.com/> www.helobubbas.com <http://www.prowlers.org/> www.prowlers.org <http://www.gerlecreek.com/> www.gerlecreek.com <http://www.ford6vcarburetion.com/> www.ford6vcarburetion.com <http://www.westcoastwillysclub.com/> www.westcoastwillysclub.com <http://www.nssha.org/> www.nssha.org <http://www.nhahistoricalsociety.org/> www.nhahistoricalsociety.org <https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/> https://sh60fhoas.nhahistoricalsociety.org/ From: Brian Miller <brianjmiller1977@gmail.com <mailto:brianjmiller1977@gmail.com> > Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2025 4:20 PM To: mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com <mailto:mgbrattland@gerlecreek.com> Cc: HeloBubbas <helobubbas@helobubbas.com <mailto:helobubbas@helobubbas.com> > Subject: [Helobubbas] Re: UPS Mishap That was a lot of flame and it looks like they were already beyond V1. Knowing nothing about the type, it looks like they had some issues getting to Vr and still tried to rotate, likely due to a complete lack of any other option. The fire was obviously an issue, but I’m wondering what sucked away their takeoff power. It’s a tough thing to see. 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